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Boxing Champion Archie
Boxing Champion Archie
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The best of the "Black Murderers Row?"?
The infamous black murderers row were a group of boxers in and around the light heavyweight division who were too good for their own good. Nobody wanted to fight them so politics kept them out of title contention.
Among them were Charley Burley, Eddie Booker, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell, Loyd Marshall and Aron Wade with great champions like Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore thrown into the mix.
My question is who was the cream of the avoided crop?
I'm going with Burley, he has recognition from the highest in boxing royalty and a near bullet proof record. Beating Archie Moore decisively and when anywhere near his prime he was only defeated by other members of "the row" and (the only man to truly have his number) Ezzard Charles, a naturally bigger man who KO'd Joe Louis and gave Marciano two hard nights.
BQ: How would Gene Tunney stack up against Charley Burley, Eddie Booker, Jack Chase, Bert Lytell, Loyd Marshall, and Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore head to head?
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I would say Ezzard Charles is the best of the bunch. He beat a prime Moore three times, and at just 19 defeated Burley, dropping him twice on the way to a ten round decision. You say Charles was naturally bigger, but like I say he was 19 and didn't start fighting heavyweights until much later, at the time of their fight I believe he only weighed in the 160's. Burley is definitely the best of the non champions though, and one of the most avoided fighters in history. He beat the likes of Archie Moore, Billy Soose, Fritzie Zivic and Holman Williams and even the likes of Robinson and LaMotta were said to have avoided him, along with Sam Langford I would say he is the best boxer never to have won a world title. Eddie Futch said that Burley was the most talented fighter he had ever worked with and Futch worked with the likes of Joe Louis, Joe Frazier, Alexis Arguello and Larry Holmes, so that really shows something of how good Burley was.
BQ: I think Tunney would have beaten them all, apart from Charles, and with Burley it could go either way. Remember, Tunney fought the best light heavyweights and heavyweights in a great era and lost only one to great Harry Greb.
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March 14th, 2011
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